User talk:Lee

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This user has been cautioned for excessive edits in 24 hours. The user is now unblocked, but has been cautioned. After the next incident the system will automatically deny this user until I or Rytis re-enables his/her account.

-- WikiSysop


For god's sake, Lee! I can't stop you from improving the Wiki, but don't make this much edits for one page. There's "preview" button for checking how the page looks like and correcting your grammar or spelling.

Besides, things like email to e-Mail are controversial and should be discussed before making changes. For example, Wikipedia uses e-mail (lowercase) AND states that it can be abbreviated as email, too. 5 (?) not useful edits. Turn nitpicking mode off :)

</rant> --Rytis 19:07, 17 June 2006 (BST)


OK, point taken, i'll try to make a smaller number of larger edits.

What's the difficulty with lots of smaller edits though? Ranting doesn't really help explain the root problem/issue, and i generally don't respond to such things anyway. I could understand if i was wrecking pages, but as far as i know, i'm not doing anything destructive.

If you'd like to clearly explain why it's an issue, i'd be happy to change my behaviour. I do actually use the preview function quite a lot, if you look at the changes made to Domain Name System for example, you'll see that one of my first edits was rather major, so i don't just hit save after each single little change, i do try to review what i've written before sumbitting it.

Maybe i was wrong to think that my efforts as a volunteer would be appreciated, considering nothing much seems to be happening with the wiki of late, and for various reasons i have a fair bit of personal time to offer. I would have thought any help, as long as it's useful/constructive, would be welcomed, but if my edits are not useful/constructive then please point out how, or say that you'd like me to stop.


As for the email/e-mail/e-Mail issue, "e-Mail" was the first version i came across (in this wiki itself), so i continued that trend considering there was almost no apparent "standard" of notation for such things, so i decided to make one. If that's the wrong format then feel free to change it, or point out the "correct" format and i'll change them all back myself if it really makes that much difference.

As you said yourself, there's no "standard"/"official" format, and surely consistency is an important goal for the wiki considering it's target audience. That's why i've requested/proposed something like an "editor's" section/namespace for info about conventions/standards and related issues, so that standards/conventions specific to this wiki can be discussed (to decide what's actually best) and clearly explained and documented, thus removing any confusion.

If, as joint manager/admin, want to make such specifications then please do so, i'll be more than happy to follow them, but as there is no such info at present, i'm having to use my own judgement, so i politely ask that you not critacise my judgement until proper guidence is available. However, i've taken your comments as guidence, although they weren't exactly positive. -- Lee Carré 19:36, 17 June 2006 (BST)


You see, I'd personally like to review the changes. Who knows what can come to people minds. And multiple edits makes additional work.

Another reason is that it makes another copy of the page in the database. I don't know about Chris, but at Paul times it was very problematic with the db size.

I am sorry if I sounded wrong. It's a really bad day for me today. Your changes to the Wiki are really appreciated.

As for the standards - hard to tell what questions may arise, hard to plan in advance. I think we can discuss everything general in Help:Contents talk section, and the things about specific topics in the topic's talk page. Also, before creating pages with names that might be controversial (remember BAM! :)), please consult. Apart from that... Nothing :)

And back to email (e-mail) - for sure, M is not uppercase. And my personal opinion is that we should use email, as a single word and not the short form of electronic mail, as it is becomming more and more a simple term.

Again, sorry if I sounded offensive --Rytis 19:54, 17 June 2006 (BST)


I also vote for email if we are going to make a standard. --JKeck 13:37, 18 June 2006 (BST)


No problem with you improving the Wiki, thankfully it's someone that is actively improving things. :) As for email or E-Mail or e-mail... no idea that is really "correct", but atleast the 1st. is easiest to write. ;) e-Mail on the other hand atleast for me doesn't seem correct. --Ingleside 13:26, 18.06.2006. (UTC)

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